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@Elia Magrinelli"Of those multi-billion [sic] that goes around of what you call "vivisection" (and I still don't want to use that term that refers to something that has not been done since the end of...

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And wow, I didn't realise your source was the ever reliable.... Internet. With its up to date pictures and videos. None of which could possibly have come from experiments done in the 60s/70s/80s before...

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@ Mr. T"And yes, what I'm "mumbling" about is that every single medication currently approved for use in humans was first tested in animals."-I never disputed that, did I? I said "Maybe, maybe not"...

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It's not vivisection as with the term vivisection is intended a surgery operation on a live and aware/non anhestehtized animals, which is not done. Stop using youtube as a reference!! Is a non reviewed...

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@Mr. T"And wow, I didn't realise your source was the ever reliable.... Internet. With its up to date pictures and videos. None of which could possibly have come from experiments done in the 60s/70s/80s...

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@EliaIt is true that "1000 Doctors Against Vivisection" (it was written in 1989) but the quotes he obtained from hundreds or doctors and researchers about the failures of animal research are as valid...

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That the drug market has issues is no news to me or to any other people, and is a modern problem for sure. Although I could not see any reference to the "fact" that all of this is caused by how bad...

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@Paddy JamesMy sources for drugs HAVING to be tested pre-clinically are as follows:http://www.novartis.com/innova...Novartis is a pharmaceutical company. Please specifically refer to the 'Safety and...

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In general the animal rights is a heavyweight and serious issue, and it is in this light that the damage, already far greater than these perpetrators most likely can imagine, becomes even more severe....

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@Mr. T"Regarding your link to: http://www.sciencedaily.com/REALLY? This is where you obtain your information?"-Now wait a minute. You're on nature.com blabbering away about an article on here...is this...

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@Mr. TOne last thing. You mentioned Colin Blakemore...readers should know this is the same vivisector who infamously once sewed up the eyes of sixteen kittens, allegedly to find a way to cure squints....

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My,my, this Patrick James really is an unpleasant fellow.The allegations made against Professor Colin Blakemore that Patrick James is referring to were found to be exaggerated, unbalanced and unfair by...

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@PaulBrowne-Experiments on one species of animal are not predictive of response on another, and the data obtained from such experiments is frequently misleading and/or dangerous if extrapolated. If...

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"A Critical Look at Animal Experimentation"Medical Research Modernization Committee, 2006Christopher Anderegg, M.D., Ph.D.Kathy Archibald, B.Sc.Jarrod Bailey, Ph.D.Murry J. Cohen, M.D.Stephen R....

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So you suggest that to understand something of which we ignore the function, we should not be takling one aspect at a time trying to make it fit with what is already known on the subject and on the...

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Re: Animal-rights activists wreak havoc in Milan laboratory

By the way, violence brings only violence, how do you think universities (like the one in Milan) will react in a second attempt from animal rigth activist? I'm ready to bet that people that work there...

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@EliaYou seem to be confused...you are responding to certain questions and statements I made to two other posters on here,"Mr. T" and "Paul Browne". Scroll up and check it out for yourself. Anyway, let...

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I think animal model do give a pretty clear indication on how the drugs would react on human. I used to worked on bone-related diseases using mice model and can can tell you although it is not 100% at...

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Hi. I read all the comments here. Everything started from something really awful: the illegal occupation of a facility. Nobody spent one single word on it. The use of violence to impose an idea,...

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Sorry. I read my comment and noticed it's written really bad. Really really bad phrasing. I am not English mother tongue (as u surely noticed) and I wrote the comment while I was walking in the street...

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Experimenting on humans is not ok, but itâ&#x80&#x99s ok to experiment on animals? Why is it ok for animals to suffer? Imagine you came into this world as a mouse. And you were born in a...

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Patrick, nobody ever said or believed that an animal can predict exactly that a drug will work, but is at this time the best method we have, coupled with all the modeling and in vitro tests that for...

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I am an American veterinary clinician and scientist who has worked in private veterinary small animal practice, in academia with experience in reviewing animal protocols submitted by other scientists...

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I find it funny we are asked to sympathize with the animal researchers with talk of the fact that some of the mice were genetically engineered and will not survive long outside a controlled...

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Corvus "Also, nonhuman animals, aside from being vastly different from humans (and each other), don't suffer from autism or schizophrenia.", this phrase of you proves that you talk without caring to...

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